Comments on: Who dares to be critical of the Royals? http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/who-dares-to-be-critical-of-the-royals Plaid Assembly Member for South Wales West including Aberavon, Bridgend, Gower, Neath, Ogmore, Port Talbot and Swansea Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:04:17 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: leigh richards http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/who-dares-to-be-critical-of-the-royals/comment-page-1#comment-3401 leigh richards Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:19:13 +0000 http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/?p=990#comment-3401 text correction..that should be 'having a PRINCE imposed on us'....... text correction..that should be ‘having a PRINCE imposed on us’…….

]]> By: leigh richards http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/who-dares-to-be-critical-of-the-royals/comment-page-1#comment-3400 leigh richards Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:17:43 +0000 http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/?p=990#comment-3400 the debate that took place on bbc wales the other nite - where bethan and others made a very effective case against the monarchy and having a price imposed on us i thought - would never have taken place 20 years ago..and maybe not even 10 years ago! The political landscape in wales has simply been transformed in the last decade or so. No longer do we have to argue with diehard 'unionists' over whether or not wales is a nation...now the arguement is over when - not if - wales takes its rightful place among all the other self governing and sovereign nations of the world (over 60 of whom are smaller than wales i believe) the debate that took place on bbc wales the other nite – where bethan and others made a very effective case against the monarchy and having a price imposed on us i thought – would never have taken place 20 years ago..and maybe not even 10 years ago!

The political landscape in wales has simply been transformed in the last decade or so.

No longer do we have to argue with diehard ‘unionists’ over whether or not wales is a nation…now the arguement is over when – not if – wales takes its rightful place among all the other self governing and sovereign nations of the world (over 60 of whom are smaller than wales i believe)

]]> By: Philip Hosking http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/who-dares-to-be-critical-of-the-royals/comment-page-1#comment-3386 Philip Hosking Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:10:46 +0000 http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/?p=990#comment-3386 From my blog. Cornish or English heritage? Why doesn't the Duke pay?: http://thecornishdemocrat.blogspot.com/2009/07/english-heritage-or-cornish-heritage.html From my blog. Cornish or English heritage? Why doesn’t the Duke pay?: http://thecornishdemocrat.blogspot.com/2009/07/english-heritage-or-cornish-heritage.html

]]> By: Bethan http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/who-dares-to-be-critical-of-the-royals/comment-page-1#comment-3379 Bethan Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:58:18 +0000 http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/?p=990#comment-3379 Paul, look at the campaign website for the group Republic. You will see that they cost far more than 69p a year. Whether the Republican argument is a minority or not, people are still have a right to have their say. On the issue of my website, I could not get it funded by the party as my official site can't be party political. You are advocating that I pay the party when this has been criticised in other instances! Paul, look at the campaign website for the group Republic. You will see that they cost far more than 69p a year. Whether the Republican argument is a minority or not, people are still have a right to have their say.

On the issue of my website, I could not get it funded by the party as my official site can’t be party political. You are advocating that I pay the party when this has been criticised in other instances!

]]> By: This week I have mostly been reading…. – Freedom Central http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/who-dares-to-be-critical-of-the-royals/comment-page-1#comment-3367 This week I have mostly been reading…. – Freedom Central Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:43:28 +0000 http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/?p=990#comment-3367 [...] not just MP’s expenses that are making the news this week. Bethan Jenkins spoke on Sunday at a discussion held in the Senedd about the Royal Family. Apparently Prince [...] [...] not just MP’s expenses that are making the news this week. Bethan Jenkins spoke on Sunday at a discussion held in the Senedd about the Royal Family. Apparently Prince [...]

]]> By: Marcus Warner http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/who-dares-to-be-critical-of-the-royals/comment-page-1#comment-3363 Marcus Warner Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:22:10 +0000 http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/?p=990#comment-3363 Good post. I am an agnostic republican, if I was given the choice to end the Monarchy, I would. However, I don’t see it as a priority necessarily. An interesting aside to all this, did you notice the absence of one of the ‘usual suspects’ in this debate – the taxpayers alliance. Remember those defenders of the good fight against public money being wasted? Considering they are political ‘neutral’ supposedly, it is funny they had very little to say on this matter, considering they are pretty much gun for hire normally with these stories. Good post.

I am an agnostic republican, if I was given the choice to end the Monarchy, I would. However, I don’t see it as a priority necessarily.

An interesting aside to all this, did you notice the absence of one of the ‘usual suspects’ in this debate – the taxpayers alliance. Remember those defenders of the good fight against public money being wasted?

Considering they are political ‘neutral’ supposedly, it is funny they had very little to say on this matter, considering they are pretty much gun for hire normally with these stories.

]]> By: Paul Harding http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/who-dares-to-be-critical-of-the-royals/comment-page-1#comment-3360 Paul Harding Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:47:19 +0000 http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/?p=990#comment-3360 Bethan, today's news tells us that the Royal Family costs each man woman and child in the UK 69p per year. What ever way you look at it that is cheaper and far better value than an elected head of state and all the costs associated with that. You and your republican views are well known and your more than entitled to them, but you should accept that you are in the minority and have been for some time. Personally I'm a long standing supporter (if thats the right word) of the royals and I think most people would agree with me that the last thing the British public have a desire for right now is an elected head of state and more politicians, which will mean more elections more politicians and yes more claims for duck islands and water pipes under tennis courts etc. Interestingly I noticed in the release of AM’s expenses today, one of your highest claims after your rented second home was £2240.00 on the development of your blog and website (before hosting and bandwidth). I know your criticism of the Royal go far beyond their cost to the taxpayer, but how can you justify spending so much public cash on a website, when most AMs either get their party to pay for one or only charge a few hundred pounds at most? Bethan, today’s news tells us that the Royal Family costs each man woman and child in the UK 69p per year. What ever way you look at it that is cheaper and far better value than an elected head of state and all the costs associated with that. You and your republican views are well known and your more than entitled to them, but you should accept that you are in the minority and have been for some time. Personally I’m a long standing supporter (if thats the right word) of the royals and I think most people would agree with me that the last thing the British public have a desire for right now is an elected head of state and more politicians, which will mean more elections more politicians and yes more claims for duck islands and water pipes under tennis courts etc.

Interestingly I noticed in the release of AM’s expenses today, one of your highest claims after your rented second home was £2240.00 on the development of your blog and website (before hosting and bandwidth). I know your criticism of the Royal go far beyond their cost to the taxpayer, but how can you justify spending so much public cash on a website, when most AMs either get their party to pay for one or only charge a few hundred pounds at most?

]]> By: Valleysmam http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/who-dares-to-be-critical-of-the-royals/comment-page-1#comment-3359 Valleysmam Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:05:35 +0000 http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/?p=990#comment-3359 The monarchy is outdated and I certainly would never bow the knee to any of them. I do not recognise Elizabeth Windsor on any level. Prince Charles, nice well meaning man, but why he should hold such sway defeats me. They do cost millions and will be looking for more as the present civil list comes to review next year They cost far more that 69 p, that's just the civil list ,you have to add all other cost to that. Tourism - that would still be there , they come not to see the Royals but the panoply of monarchy ,palaces ,jewels , paintings etc. Also I do not see tourism suffering in places who do not have royals I am appalled at he privilege shown to Andrews dreadful daughters and such like. Time to dispense with this past its sell by relic . The monarchy is outdated and I certainly would never bow the knee to any of them. I do not recognise Elizabeth Windsor on any level.
Prince Charles, nice well meaning man, but why he should hold such sway defeats me.
They do cost millions and will be looking for more as the present civil list comes to review next year
They cost far more that 69 p, that’s just the civil list ,you have to add all other cost to that.
Tourism – that would still be there , they come not to see the Royals but the panoply of monarchy ,palaces ,jewels , paintings etc.
Also I do not see tourism suffering in places who do not have royals
I am appalled at he privilege shown to Andrews dreadful daughters and such like.
Time to dispense with this past its sell by relic .

]]> By: leigh richards http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/who-dares-to-be-critical-of-the-royals/comment-page-1#comment-3358 leigh richards Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:06:14 +0000 http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/?p=990#comment-3358 why should anyone inherit power and wealth through no effort or skills of their own? The fact is the house of windsor enjoys lavish wealth and power purely because of who they are - they have done nothing whatsoever themselves to earn this wealth and power! why should anyone inherit power and wealth through no effort or skills of their own? The fact is the house of windsor enjoys lavish wealth and power purely because of who they are – they have done nothing whatsoever themselves to earn this wealth and power!

]]> By: David Williams http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/who-dares-to-be-critical-of-the-royals/comment-page-1#comment-3357 David Williams Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:17:52 +0000 http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/?p=990#comment-3357 Sam - if you knew Bethan you'd know how hard she works. She was elected democratically and has every right to voice her opinion. To me, the royal family has no relevance to us here in Wales, the name 'Prince of Wales'is in itself a joke at best. The old tourism argument may be relevant if you live in Windsor or London but if you ask visitors to Wales why they come, few would say the royal family. If England wants the royals, they're welcome to them. Sam – if you knew Bethan you’d know how hard she works. She was elected democratically and has every right to voice her opinion.
To me, the royal family has no relevance to us here in Wales, the name ‘Prince of Wales’is in itself a joke at best. The old tourism argument may be relevant if you live in Windsor or London but if you ask visitors to Wales why they come, few would say the royal family. If England wants the royals, they’re welcome to them.

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