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	<description>Plaid Assembly Member for South Wales West including  Aberavon, Bridgend, Gower, Neath, Ogmore, Port Talbot and Swansea</description>
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		<title>By: Pandy</title>
		<link>http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/that-website/comment-page-1#comment-2828</link>
		<dc:creator>Pandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>regardless of ones stance on the issue democratic processes demand nobody be considered irrelevant and whether nationalist or non-nationalist, we must remember that the majority of potential voters are apathetic to the issue and increasingly sensitised to rhetoric, thus becoming more apathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>regardless of ones stance on the issue democratic processes demand nobody be considered irrelevant and whether nationalist or non-nationalist, we must remember that the majority of potential voters are apathetic to the issue and increasingly sensitised to rhetoric, thus becoming more apathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: leigh richards</title>
		<link>http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/that-website/comment-page-1#comment-2825</link>
		<dc:creator>leigh richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thankyou for correcting me penddu - am relieved to know that a tory is fronting the No campaign in wales again! Can only help us in the referendum :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thankyou for correcting me penddu &#8211; am relieved to know that a tory is fronting the No campaign in wales again! Can only help us in the referendum <img src='http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Penddu</title>
		<link>http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/that-website/comment-page-1#comment-2817</link>
		<dc:creator>Penddu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to say above - but they are both irrelevant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to say above &#8211; but they are both irrelevant</p>
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		<title>By: Penddu</title>
		<link>http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/that-website/comment-page-1#comment-2816</link>
		<dc:creator>Penddu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dai Rees is allegedly a Labour member, but Rachel Banner is a Conservative</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dai Rees is allegedly a Labour member, but Rachel Banner is a Conservative</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Dyda</title>
		<link>http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/that-website/comment-page-1#comment-2806</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Dyda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’ve always thought that Owain Glyndwr was a right-of-centre nationalist. Today, I reckon he would be a natural Conservative.&quot;

Are you saying &quot;natural Conservatives&quot; such as yourself support an independent Welsh state then, Glyn?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ve always thought that Owain Glyndwr was a right-of-centre nationalist. Today, I reckon he would be a natural Conservative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you saying &#8220;natural Conservatives&#8221; such as yourself support an independent Welsh state then, Glyn?</p>
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		<title>By: Glyn Davies</title>
		<link>http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/that-website/comment-page-1#comment-2805</link>
		<dc:creator>Glyn Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always thought that Owain Glyndwr was a right-of-centre nationalist.  Today, I reckon he would be a natural Conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always thought that Owain Glyndwr was a right-of-centre nationalist.  Today, I reckon he would be a natural Conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Clulow</title>
		<link>http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/that-website/comment-page-1#comment-2804</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Clulow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Voice of Wales?&quot; - er ..I think not. The voice maybe of some former Labour supporters who have belatedly woken up to the reality that their own party became Tories 12 years ago.

&quot;A modern platform for the politics of the progressive left&quot;. Well I joined Plaid from Labour 5 years ago. I have found Plaid progressive, left, lively, forward and very outward looking. Far less parochial than I had found the &quot;vote-fodder at the soggy end of the M4&quot; that was Welsh Labour.

Let&#039;s hope the owners of Aneurin Glyndwr get the mass debate they yearn for. Whether it will change the rightward drift of their mother (or is it former) party, however, is very doubtful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Voice of Wales?&#8221; &#8211; er ..I think not. The voice maybe of some former Labour supporters who have belatedly woken up to the reality that their own party became Tories 12 years ago.</p>
<p>&#8220;A modern platform for the politics of the progressive left&#8221;. Well I joined Plaid from Labour 5 years ago. I have found Plaid progressive, left, lively, forward and very outward looking. Far less parochial than I had found the &#8220;vote-fodder at the soggy end of the M4&#8243; that was Welsh Labour.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope the owners of Aneurin Glyndwr get the mass debate they yearn for. Whether it will change the rightward drift of their mother (or is it former) party, however, is very doubtful.</p>
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		<title>By: leigh richards</title>
		<link>http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/that-website/comment-page-1#comment-2803</link>
		<dc:creator>leigh richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wonder what messrs dai rees and rachel banner - torfean based labour flunkies spearheading the staunch &#039;unionist&#039; anti-devolutionists of &#039;True Wales&#039; - must be thinking of all this embracing of &#039;Glyndwr&#039; by leading labour figures in wales?

Pathetic is not the word to desribe this crude attempt by the labour party to  project an image of &#039;welshness&#039; If the welsh labour party really wants to demonstrate that they have the best interests of the people of wales at heart they should get their secretary of state and their MPs to stop holding up and blocking legislation already agreed to by the welsh people&#039;s own democratically elected national Assembly! Or they can declare their support on their website for more powers for our Assembly via a Yes vote in a referendum by 2011.

It also has to be said that their attempt - via this website - to claim the legacy of committed socialist aneurin bevan is equally ludicrous! As it is difficult to imagine Bevan approving of proposals to privatise the post office or of pouring billions of pounds of public money to save the necks of greedy and incompetent bankers or backing an illegal war on another country that has claimed the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent people!

I suspect that well founded rumours that this website is in reality nothing more than a vehicle to mount attacks on labour&#039;s opponents in wales are not far off the mark!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wonder what messrs dai rees and rachel banner &#8211; torfean based labour flunkies spearheading the staunch &#8216;unionist&#8217; anti-devolutionists of &#8216;True Wales&#8217; &#8211; must be thinking of all this embracing of &#8216;Glyndwr&#8217; by leading labour figures in wales?</p>
<p>Pathetic is not the word to desribe this crude attempt by the labour party to  project an image of &#8216;welshness&#8217; If the welsh labour party really wants to demonstrate that they have the best interests of the people of wales at heart they should get their secretary of state and their MPs to stop holding up and blocking legislation already agreed to by the welsh people&#8217;s own democratically elected national Assembly! Or they can declare their support on their website for more powers for our Assembly via a Yes vote in a referendum by 2011.</p>
<p>It also has to be said that their attempt &#8211; via this website &#8211; to claim the legacy of committed socialist aneurin bevan is equally ludicrous! As it is difficult to imagine Bevan approving of proposals to privatise the post office or of pouring billions of pounds of public money to save the necks of greedy and incompetent bankers or backing an illegal war on another country that has claimed the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent people!</p>
<p>I suspect that well founded rumours that this website is in reality nothing more than a vehicle to mount attacks on labour&#8217;s opponents in wales are not far off the mark!</p>
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		<title>By: roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t heard one serious comment about it yet, only from Labour sycophants.
Every one is laughing at it and finds it embarrassing, more please Labour. 
As for trying to take over Owain Glyndwr as their own, I wonder how it will go down with all those anti nationalists within the party, because Owain fought for independance from that other country they so love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t heard one serious comment about it yet, only from Labour sycophants.<br />
Every one is laughing at it and finds it embarrassing, more please Labour.<br />
As for trying to take over Owain Glyndwr as their own, I wonder how it will go down with all those anti nationalists within the party, because Owain fought for independance from that other country they so love.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/that-website/comment-page-1#comment-2801</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is appalling the way Labour have decided to go about winning votes. It is childish and a sign that the Labour government have run out of ideas of how to get people to vote for them. I sincerely hope that the general public recognises this fact in future elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is appalling the way Labour have decided to go about winning votes. It is childish and a sign that the Labour government have run out of ideas of how to get people to vote for them. I sincerely hope that the general public recognises this fact in future elections.</p>
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