Comments on: Attacks on Gaza continue http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/attacks-on-gaza-continue Plaid Assembly Member for South Wales West including Aberavon, Bridgend, Gower, Neath, Ogmore, Port Talbot and Swansea Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:04:17 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: John Evans http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/attacks-on-gaza-continue/comment-page-1#comment-2497 John Evans Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:42:12 +0000 http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/?p=874#comment-2497 Leigh says "Israel a democratic state dont forget". We must also remember that hamas were also democratically ellected by their own peope. Of course Gaza is not a state, Israel and the world have put a stop to that. Israel has never offered the Palestinian people a workable state,MR richards clearly has little understanding of the suffering of the Palestinian people. Israel could have struck a deal with the PLO back in the 1970's but didn't, who knows what their enimy will lokk like in years to come, much worse than hamas is my guess. Of course Israel wants to stir up trouble in the rest of tha arab world, it's all part of their plan. We in Wales must support the setting up of a workable palestinian state, before it is too late. Leigh says “Israel a democratic state dont forget”. We must also remember that hamas were also democratically ellected by their own peope. Of course Gaza is not a state, Israel and the world have put a stop to that.
Israel has never offered the Palestinian people a workable state,MR richards clearly has little understanding of the suffering of the Palestinian people. Israel could have struck a deal with the PLO back in the 1970’s but didn’t, who knows what their enimy will lokk like in years to come, much worse than hamas is my guess.
Of course Israel wants to stir up trouble in the rest of tha arab world, it’s all part of their plan.
We in Wales must support the setting up of a workable palestinian state, before it is too late.

]]> By: leigh richards http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/attacks-on-gaza-continue/comment-page-1#comment-2491 leigh richards Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:50:33 +0000 http://www.bethanjenkinsblog.org.uk/?p=874#comment-2491 no questio bethan that israel's response to admittedly constant and repeated attacks on its citizens by hamas rockets has been disproportionate! The civilian casualties have been appalling and israel should be aware that its current actions may only be aiding the very people - radical islamicists - who hate israel the most. But hamas's role in bringing about these attacks should not be overlooked either! Despite a ceasefire having at one time being agreed it has continued to allow its members to fire rockets, purchased from iran, into israeli residential areas from gaza - 100 a day prior to israel's recent response! Also one wonders how israel - a democratic state dont forget - is meant to meaningfully 'negotiate' with an organisation like hamas that actually believes in the annhilation of the state of israel? An organisation that assassinates and tortures journalits,trade unionists and its political opponents and which is complicit in the so called honour killings of women in gaza! An organisation that does not even believe the nazi holocaust of the jews took place! An organisation which deliberately fires rockets into israeli communities from residential areas of gaza, knowing pefectly well that any israeli response may result in the death or injury of ordinary palestinians! So where are the 'protests' in wales or the rest of the uk against this repellant organisation and its s well documented human rights abuses i wonder????? Yes an independent palestinian state should be established and this is what israel offerred the palestinians in 2000 only for the palestinian leadership of the time to reject it out of hand! But it is disappointing to see you joining calls for the so called 'right of return' of palestinianas, displaced when the state of israel was trying to establish itself in the years immediately after the nazis had tried to exterminate all jews. You surely must know bethan that this call is code for the physical destruction of the state of israel? Why i wonder do you as a socialist wish to see the end of a state in which trade unionists and socialists can organise freely? Where there is equality between people of different genders and different sexualities. Which has an open and free press and a independent judiciary. Very laudible things which of course cannot be found in a single other state in the region! no questio bethan that israel’s response to admittedly constant and repeated attacks on its citizens by hamas rockets has been disproportionate! The civilian casualties have been appalling and israel should be aware that its current actions may only be aiding the very people – radical islamicists – who hate israel the most.

But hamas’s role in bringing about these attacks should not be overlooked either! Despite a ceasefire having at one time being agreed it has continued to allow its members to fire rockets, purchased from iran, into israeli residential areas from gaza – 100 a day prior to israel’s recent response!

Also one wonders how israel – a democratic state dont forget – is meant to meaningfully ‘negotiate’ with an organisation like hamas that actually believes in the annhilation of the state of israel? An organisation that assassinates and tortures journalits,trade unionists and its political opponents and which is complicit in the so called honour killings of women in gaza! An organisation that does not even believe the nazi holocaust of the jews took place! An organisation which deliberately fires rockets into israeli communities from residential areas of gaza, knowing pefectly well that any israeli response may result in the death or injury of ordinary palestinians!

So where are the ‘protests’ in wales or the rest of the uk against this repellant organisation and its s well documented human rights abuses i wonder?????

Yes an independent palestinian state should be established and this is what israel offerred the palestinians in 2000 only for the palestinian leadership of the time to reject it out of hand!

But it is disappointing to see you joining calls for the so called ‘right of return’ of palestinianas, displaced when the state of israel was trying to establish itself in the years immediately after the nazis had tried to exterminate all jews. You surely must know bethan that this call is code for the physical destruction of the state of israel?

Why i wonder do you as a socialist wish to see the end of a state in which trade unionists and socialists can organise freely? Where there is equality between people of different genders and different sexualities. Which has an open and free press and a independent judiciary. Very laudible things which of course cannot be found in a single other state in the region!

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